ZANU PF and MDC were still deadlocked Saturday on the make-up of a new government after failing to agree on the allocation of Finance and Home Affairs ministries.
President Robert Mugabe, opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) leader Morgan Tsvangirai and Arthur Mutambara, the head of a small MDC offshoot, met in the capital Harare but the talks broke up without an agreement on the allocation of the finance and home affairs cabinet posts.
Negotiators for the three parties will meet again over the posts, Mugabe’s spokesman George Charamba said.
The continued failure has blocked the formation of a unity government ever since a historic power-sharing deal was signed on September 15.
“The president and the two leaders of the MDC formations met this morning in consultation over the setting up of government, but failed to conclude their consultations,” Charamba said in a statement.
“They however decided that they should be further consultation at the level of their negotiating teams exclusively over the ministries of finance and home affairs.”
MDC spokesman Nelson Chamisa told AFP the parties had “a frank and realistic” exchange but the allocation of the ministries was still deadlocked. He confirmed consultations would continue.
Chamisa said the situation in Zimbabwe was “catastrophic” and the continuing delay in forming a government “is a threat to people’s lives”.
“We hope that things will be resolved soon but the delay is a threat to people’s lives. People are dying… the humanitarian response has to be activated and you need a functional government to do that,” Chamisa said.
Mutambara’s spokesman Edwin Mushoriwa said the discussions were inconclusive and the unresolved issues were back with negotiators.
“The negotiators are meeting to try and panel-beat the issues that have been left. The principals (the three leaders) understand the urgency of this matter that it has to be concluded.”
Once one of Africa’s most prosperous countries, Zimbabwe now suffers the world’s highest rate of inflation, last estimated at 11.2 million percent, leaving 80 percent of the population living in poverty.
A source close to the negotiations said Tsvangirai and Mutambara had discussions before meeting Mugabe to come up with a joint position. The pair also met again after the talks failed.
The South African government said Friday that former president Thabo Mbeki, who brokered the power-sharing deal, had agreed to resume his mediation to resolve the deadlock.
Under the South African-brokered September 15 deal, Mugabe will remain as head of state after nearly three decades in power while Tsvangirai is to take up a new post of prime minister and Mutambara will be a deputy prime minister.
The deal was heralded as an historic initiative to resolve Zimbabwe’s political deadlock and economic melt-down, but the deadlock over cabinet seats remains.
-AFP
If ever there was a deal in the first place why are Tsvangirai and Mutambara going to beg Mugabe at all? Vanomunyengerera chii? Even when he does concede , MDC will come out second best. I never thought I would see the day when our true leaders would lose all credibility by going to State house with their tails between their feet to beg for crumbs from the high table. Are you guys so hungry to rule? MDC must pull out NOW!! Nyika yaibva kudhara. We can do without ZANU(PF).Its not far now but just a matter of time. Let him dig his own grave.
This is a charade…..Walk away from this mess Morgan and let this little Hitler drown in his own exrement. Your standing in Zimbabwe is at risk by continuing with this pointless exercise.
You are going to rue the day you decided to be a British outfit. You will see Morgan running to RGM with files and reports.
Scarface. What happened to your baboons promise of a government by the end of this week.Just more lies from his excrement filled mouth.No matter what that baboon tries he will fail.He is a failure after having achieved absolutely nothing in 28 years of misrule except the destruction of a once magnificent country. I now believe that Ian Smith may have been correct in what he said about your BABOON. No country in the world could ever move forward with such a highly corrupt and incompetent useless government and party such as zanu pf. They are the evil spell that hovers over Zimbabwe.Unless that evill spell can be removed then Zimbabwe is doomed for ever.zanu is the devil and as you can see your BABOON speaks with a forked tongue .
Hahahahaha hahahahahahah -hahahahahaha baba what do you want from us? Why is morgan running around begging for ministerial posts? Why did he sign a deal without thinking it through first? I told you this morgan chap is uneducated and cant tell black from white. Mugabe can play around with him now-he has him trapped. No passport-No Job.hahahahahaha. As much as i want to laugh at you morgan’s stupididty i also want our country to be back on track.So eventually we will give him the posts he craves of home affairs and finance .The reason we are delaying is just to rorganise the role of the CIO .After that is agreed we then let morgan have Home affairs and Finance.
Baba and your crew you must just agree kuti morgan has failed you. He signed a bad deal that you guys did not want-or did you? Every lesder must be called to book for his decisions -so bring him in and give him a dressing down.He is now running around trying to redeem himself by refusing to agree on allocation of ministries after realising that he will forever be a tea boy . hahahahahaha!!! What a waste of space. I would love to lead the mdc because i can make all the silly deisions and no one gives a monkeys.They just go along with it because they are desparate for power.Now Zapu is reviving itself what problems will that bring? Is it another Mugabe ploy like Mavambo project? We are in for some interesting times. But one thing is for sure some things are changing already. Just by signing this deal – confidence has been injected into the economy no matter how little.
With or without Morgan a gvt will be formed….we know how long it takes him to make his decisions. Now he has no travel documents its not easy to leave the country to consult his masters . It will be a while before he makes up his mind.May be he wants Mbeki to come and do it for him . That is why Chamisa has been crying out its a deadlock-we have informed SADCC. Mdc can not negotiate on their own. They are rubbish at it.Mugabe calls the shots -get it? Morgan is still a tea boy but compared to other African presidents he is also allowed to serve buiscuits.Bring on the new gvt.
Mugabe to secretary –Can you please tell morgan i want the report on the farming situation in wedza by tuesday lunch time ..in the mean time tell him to make me a cup of tea with lemon busicuits please.If there is no more milk let him run to OK and get a few cartons. thanks.tell him he is a hard working prime minister. viva zimbabwe
Zimbabweans this is not the time to attack each other, we are one people even though we have different political view. Unity Unity Unit is the moto!!!!!!!
Scarface, the way you expose your ideas is very intimidating and irritating to those who lack the vision and acumen needed in today’s politics of deception. Continue writing, lm always reading your comments with a smile.
Lets work together to get our country working. Zimbabwe is a beautiful country that has been decemated by the illegal sanctions and some bad political and economic mismangement. That the real cause of our hardship is these illegal sanctions. We all know that. Somehow we must get our country back on its feet with or without these sanctions. As long as we are united we can do it.We are now in a relationship with the puppets-but we have to do this to save our people.Lets all get positive…lets be positive thinkers-lets all believe.
Please from now on lets try and refer to our president as PRESIDENT R.G. MUGABE I dont go around calling our primeminister names. I refer to him as morgan. But if you insist on calling our president names then i will resort to calling morgan by his real name tea boy puppet.Lets all stop name calling and respect this agreement our leaders have signed.
peace be with you…
Sarface why sanctions are not affecting top gvt officials, 55 people went with Bob to US last week where did they get the forex for so many people if we are under sanctions. I don’t think sanctions are the real problem but bad policies and corruption are the main cuse of our suffering. Smith was also under sanctions but he managed to build a strong econy which was inherited by Bob in 980.
Hey pple we r all Zimbos here, and noone is mo Zimbo than another, and none knows beta coz we all equal.This idea of blaming others for our mistakes has to stop.Lets face reality & say, Zim economy has bn destryed mainly by Zimbos due to indiscipline & corrruption.For a country with the world’s highest inflation where are all those luxury cars coming from, the mansions, the jewelery, the fancy clothing,etc. We’ve very few pple who r controlling the economy such that if we distributed their wealth equally to all citizens everyone wld have at leat a decent meal a day.
Scarface. If your baboon was legitimately elected as president in a free and fair election then we would recognise him as the president and call him by that title,but he wasn’t. Therefore he is no different from the monkey that he represents and so shall be called by his true title and that is a baboon.The agreement can only be respected if your baboon will keep to his part of the deal that he signed in front of the world and that is to share power equally. He is now making mbeki look like a complete fool.We are watching you closely baboon and no funds will come to Zimbabwe untill you can show proof of your side of the deal.You are losing power and you and your monkey followers are going down with you.Justice will prevail in the end. It always does.
ZVIMWE ZVINHU MUSA CHEME NA BHOBHO.
PAZAVINGE ZVAKA NAKA MAI HURA, MUCHI DHAKWA, MUCHITAMBA NECHIKORO, MUCHITAMBA NEBASA.
MAI ENDA KUMUSHA PANGUVA YEBASA NE MOTA YEBASA NE ****.
IKOZVINO MOCHEMA NA BHOBHO.
KANA BHOBHO AKA ENDA, KANA KUKA UYA KUZOTONGWA NE MUNHU AKA DINI, IMI MUSINA KUCHINJA MAITIRO, MUNONGO CHEMA CHETE.
FOR THE DEAL TO WORK THEY HAVE TO SHARE POWER EQUALLY THAT MEANS HOME AFFAIRS MINISTRY AND FINANCE TO MDC FOR THE BETTER OF ZIMBABWE.
Scar face uri ****
Scarface I am sure you are making lots of money whilst people in Kazangarare, Magunje and Mwami suffering. Even an illeterate person can tell rampant corruption is the root problem. I hope scarface will remember our leaders once proclaimed openly that they do not need World Bank or any International financial institutions and this was just after awarding War Vets more than what was sustainable at the time. Scarface calling names is not the solutions. Mugabe at some point shall cease to exist, as good as all of us. What we need is a leader who will leave legacy to Zimbabwe not suffering by thinking they have the best set of minds. I don’t care who rules but I get worried about people who divert facts eg illegal sanctions yet all the money was swindled by corrupt leaders.
A lot of people do not understand how smith managed to evade sanctions-dont forget south africa was a willing partner and so were the british businesses.What a lot of you have been brainwashed into believing is that white people even under sanctions can manage better than blacks. How did Zimbabwe manage from 1980-1997? Was the country still riding on the successes of Ian smith the only man in the whole world to defeat sanctions and come out with a thriving economy …as some would have us believe.Wakomana nevasikana musadaro-you are well educatd i guess or may be you follow in morgan’s footsteps-no o levels. I am not putting him down , just stating the obvious.
I can not imagine Americans electing a leader with no academic background of any sort. They do not mind us doing it , but they will never accept a president who has no history of achieving anything or a good education.Every leader of a great country needs to have some sort of education as a sign of ability to think on your own and commitment to tasks etc.It does not necessarily mean that person will solve all your problems—oh no.Look at george bush!!! Obama has nothing to show in terms of experience , but his academic background gives him a start and proves that he is a thinker and a person who can commit to a task and see it through.
Come to zimbabwe-mugabe even with his flows has a track record of some one who thinks and solves problems. Up to 1997 he could do no wrong in the eyes of the world. Even through these difficult times he has proved that his charm and understanding of his surroundings and focus is second to non. Many leaders would have given up the March elections. Look how he turned it around to be in this position today? Give the man credit.
Lets now look at morgan-No o levels and no liberation credentails. IN America he would be wasting his time in the elections.The Americans would never a Commander in Chief who refused to fight in a war-period.It is a sign of weakness and unwillingness to put the country first. Why then should they force feed us morgan who has no track record of any sort except provoking the police and getting beat.Now he wants to be the leader of the police force.I would love to see a live debate like they have in America between the contestants of the three major parties.I would love to see how they will respond to questions on the spot without prior consultion.Lets put the country first.
Lets do away with cheap election campaigns. Lets from now on vote for leaders who have demostrated a clear understanding of political and economic issues and at the same time have shown us a plan as to how thry intend to tackle those issues.Lets forget cheap slogans that have no back up.We want substance and a vision for Zimbabwe.Let the leaders talk about the real economy -jobs -taxes-interest rates-farming-mining-tourism-education-health care-war veterans-old people-martenity leave-pension plans-road maintenance-national youth service-foreign policy-SADCC states-small businesses etc. we never hear anyone talk about these .All we get is Morgan is more-more how? Like David cameron said -He is the Man with the Plan.Its time we saw some of these plans in zimbabwe.While i am at it , someone in MDC please tell Chamisa your mouth peace to SHUT up.The man is a lost case.
Itayi -i take your word -One question .we have all seen morgan and his inability to make decisions..do you think he would make a good president? If it was down to scarface alone i would not even contemplate the idea of a president with no formal education behind him.It is a bad sign if a leader has no academic background. Even mugabe has degrees that he gained whilst behind bars and some given by the now haters.Morgan did not go to war and at the same time did notb make the effort to read books.That is not a good sign -such people have no inspiration.Just because we are suffering now does not mean we have to get anyone available to lead the nation. We need the right person.Simba makoni type of individual who has a mix of academics and practical experience. Ability to negotiate is crucial as you can all see right now. We are deadlocked because MDC failed to negotiate clearly by signing a document that was inconclusive yet morgan told us he would never sign a bad deal. Its alright blaming Mugabe for all the fuss going on now , but had morgan looked at all the issues before signing , he could have anticipated this ministries stalemate.To overlook it before he signed is again a sign of his weakness or a clear lack of education. You do not have to beleive what i say but as a zimbabwean i must look at issues objectively. The decisions these same people will make tomorrow will affect my family too and my children.
Yes sanctions alone have not destroyed the economy-rampant corruption that even Mugabe himself has tried to fight openly as well as the farming situation -tourism , unemeplyment-a lack of investment , non availability of balance of payments support. You will notice that some of these are all linked to the sanctions issue. Thats the way it goes.Economic mismanagent -yes a big issue but on the whole you will notice that even in the prosperuos 80s we still had rampant corruption but that country still performed.We suffered under the structural adjustment program with unemployment at 60% due to world bank and IMF projetcs and policies that we had to implement.Even their policies failed as they later admitted.All these issues have contributed to our problems today.
Now -lets put that behind us. History helps us to avaid the same mistakes in the future. Lets put all this fuss behind and look torwards the future. What do we want? The starting blocks is this new deal the parties have just signed. How can we make it work? Forget balming mugabe and Morgan for now. They will have to work together now until the next election. I see problems there just because every party would want to have the upperhand by the time the next election comes round.Be prepared for a few spats here and there.But we have no chice guys but to support this new initiative brokered by Mbeki.Lets work like proud zimbabweans for once. Lets show the world what we can achieve as a united country pursuing the same goals.
Scarface. Do you not find it strange that all these things you have just mentioned that the leaders should talk about are the very same things that baboon and his useless zanu government with their so called education have screwed up.zanu has no track record of achieving anything except screwing up the country.This is why they are no longer wanted or needed in the new Zimbabwe government.What makes you think that zanu are going to do things any different to what they have done in the last 28 years.They have not said how they intend to make things better for the people and the peoples country.They do not know how to make things better as they only know how to be criminals.
Chamisa. Please continue talking as the people of Zimbabwe like to hear the truth and not the usuall lying crap that comes out of that baboon and his useless monkey zanu troop.
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