The Secretary General of a small faction of the MDC, Welshman Ncube has implied that his faction will likely vote for a ZANU PF parliamentary speaker and said the coalition agreement signed with the Tsvangirai led MDC is no longer valid.
Speaking to a reporter in South Africa Ncube said the MDC parliamentary coalition formed was for the run-off and nothing more.
‘…We cannot and we will not annex our votes to anyone. What was done by the leadership of the MDC . . . was to back MDC-T in the run-off. But the run-off was terminated prematurely when ZANU PF unleashed violence on the people. As things stand now, each of the MDC parties are independent of each other. Anyone who wants to work with any other will have to approach the other and have a deal. As of now, there is no deal with anyone.
‘The discussions which took place between the two elections were founded on the fact that Morgan had won the 29 March election and would win the 27 June elections. That did not happen and therefore what was agreed then does not constitute a coalition.’Ncube said.
Ncube did not explain how and why the coalition was called a parliamentary coalition when it had nothing to do with parliament.
The new revelations by Ncube differ sharply with what was expressed on Tuesday April 29 2008 by the faction leader Arthur Mutambara who said,
“We are all going to work together in case Robert Mugabe and Zanu-PF try to sabotage the will of the people. We are in control of parliament. We are also controlling the senate. This is the state of affairs in our country.”
Mutambara further dismissed that the coalition was for the runoff only telling reporters,
“The question about a runoff doesn’t arise,” he said.’ I’m here to show solidarity to the winner of the presidential election in Zimbabwe.”
Tsvangirai has already expressed concern at the sudden change of tone by the faction and doubted its reliability as a coalition partner.
“I thought we were all playing in the same court . . . But it would appear that that is not the case. They (the Mutambara faction) have other views. And I think we need to revisit the coalition agreement and ask them whether we are still together…”he said.
Metro reported two months ago that Welshman Ncube resisted the coalition and instructed all MPs not join MDC president Morgan Tsvangirai when he visits their constituencies during the run-off campaign.
Metro also established during its investigations that the factions’s national executive had argued that their faction should not have fielded candidates in Gwanda South, Redcliff and Pelandaba-Mpopoma by-elections against those of the MDC-Tsvangirai, because at least it was their candidates that had died. Ncube reportedly over ruled the decision.
Ncube also reportedly read the riot act to his faction MPs who attended the MDC caucus addressed by Tsvangirai on May 30 this year.
A rift has reportedly emerged in the faction among the unelected National Executive and its 10 MP,last month the executive fired the MP for Nkayi South, Abednico Bhebhe as spokesman after he argued that the faction’s executive was making decisions that are betrayal to its electorate.
Metro also has it on good authority that the faction has reportedly struck a deal with the Mnagangwa faction of ZANU PF. The Mnangagwa faction whose influential members include Emmerson Mnangagwa,George Charamba and Patrick Chinamasa has been trying to sabotage talks with the MDC since they started.
The development comes as the United States is considering taking the same measures against the faction members they have taken against ZANU PF.
The first move might include revoking the faction leader Arthur Mutambara’s US permanent residence.
The United states government’s Acting Deputy Spokesman Gonzalo R. Gallegos, hinted on the development in a press briefing earlier during the week,
‘We’re going to continue to watch. We’re going to continue to see what happens there. Ultimately, as I’ve said before, from here, what we want to see is that the will of the Zimbabwean people is reflected in the results of this or any talks that may take place to come to a resolution to this situation,and if anyone aids the subverting of the people’s will even if they are not from ZANU PF will face the same measures we have taken against ZANU-PF.’ said Gallegos.
The entire Mutambara MDC National Executive Council lost in the March parliamentary election and it is comprised of Arthur Mutambara,President lost Zengeza West, Gibson Sibanda,Vice President lost Nkulumane,Welshman Ncube Secretary General lost in Makokoba, Priscilla Misihairabwi-Mushonga Deputy Secretary General lost Glen Norah,Miriam Mushayi Deputy Treasurer General lost Harare West,Jobert Mudzumwe,National Chairperson lost Masvingo Urban,Fletcher Dulini- Ncube Treasurer-General lost Lobengula-Magwegwe.
If these news reports are true, then Mugabe will face the music this time. Zanu PF is splitting because of the issue of succession. He is being labeled a sell out for giving Tswangirai a Prime Ministerial post when he is refusing to discuss his succession plans with Zanu pf members. Sanctions are also beginning to bite with Gono’s consignment of flowers being returned from the EU after they refused to do business with him. (Go to zimdaily.com)
‘Welshman be careful my brother the titanic (Zanu pf) is sinking’
Can somebody tell me why the ZanuPF thugs export anything when we all know that they always get any forex they need from RBZ without even having to work for it??? Gono himself flouts RBZ forex like confetti even buying Judges and top Zanu guys Plasmas and latest Mercs (US1.5m) So can anyone really educate me as to why they do business when the sole purpose of business is to generate money which they alternatevily loot from RBZ??? RBZ sources of forex are enough to meet the needs of this elite. Is it the same case of those yesteryear down town business people famous for covering their real source of money with some poor reatil shop ????
a few people are writing in ndebele-nothing wrong with that but to some of us you might as well write in zhing zhong. are you trying to communicate with ndebeles only? i understand a bit of ndebele but some of it is deep stuff. this is a new development. is it because the system will not pick up your swear words or you are just angry. bhora pasi.
the man with degrees in flipflopping is at it again-says one thing in south africa and the opposite in kenya. irir ibenzi remunhu manje.morgan is back to his flipping ways. he should move in with gary glitter. they make a perfect couple-they can hide in the denish embassy together.why now when the country is desparate for talks is he flip flopping around the world again? This man clearly does not want peace in zimbabwe-he wants it all to himself. soon he will be left with nada…just gary glitter.he always seems to abandon ship at the most critical hour. he asked for time to review but do you need two weeks for that? suppose he was president -is this how he will be behave? sometimes decisions will need to be made chopas-esp if you are commander of the defence forces-who will give you two weeks to think? education——–education——-vakomana.
tatambura muzimbabwe-we are on our knees because of sanctions etc. why not treat the talks as agent -faka pressure and sort out the mess. elections will soon follow so your turn will come to contest for president.or do you think this is your only chance? there is something not right with morgan and his crew. we must remain vigilant as ever. talks are yet to be concluded yet morgan is flip flopping again. why waste precious time? every day people are dying -every time you flip flop there is more deaths. i remember you pulled out of the elections in june to save lives -you are not saving lives by flip flopping. nothing will be solved until you stop this flipping madness.
parliament will resume with or without you….
Please lets not allow tribalism to divide us as Zimbabwe, we are one the 1987 peace accord signed by President Mugabe & Dr Joshua Nkomo still stand even in opposition political parties. We do not want a Ndebele party, or a Shona party because the white world will exploit that and you will butcher each other. What happened in Matebeland in the land 1980s should not divide us as Zimbabweans, we have to overcome tribalism in Zimbabwe. Lets talk about politics now, people say Mutamba is a sell-out don`t you see that Mutamba MDC holds real power in Zimbabwean parliament, if MDC-T is not clever they will become a party with no power in p-arliament.
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SCUD- If you think Ndebele is as good as zhing zhong to you, it is the same with shona to me. Why bother your self about Tswangirai taking his time to think, if zanu wants to convene parliament without the MDC and form a government without Tswangirai let them go ahead, but the result would be disastrous. Its better for him to take his time to consider than to sign a bad deal. The MDC is not after positions but real power.U Mutambara lo Ncube ba luza ama elections manje sebefuna izikhundla ku hulumende without people’s mandate. Zanu pf is supporting them because they want their votes. All this will never work as long as the MDC is not involved. period.
ndaizviziva chete kuti this guy called welshman is a sell out.i**** yemunhu chaiyo.selling us at this crucial time,shame on this ndebele lawyer.sell outs will always be devilish like judas iscariot who sold Jesus christ for 3 pence,shame on you welshman.to hell with you mother ****er i will hate and will not forgive till i die.Viva President Tsvangirai,we love,you are our hero and will never let you down till we die.Phambili nawe Tsvangirai.Sizohamba nawe nomakanjani,President Tsvangirai.Uwelshman inja,idothi lomuntu sibili.
Yimi ubhejani nompela.
let me enlighten a few-people seem to overlook obvious issues. Mdc-m may have 10 votes but these are the cricial votes as no one party has majority in parliament without them. Mugabe is clever enough to realise the importance of mdc -m and i think that is very important for mugabe to acknowledge this fact. Those who dilidaly laughing at the role MDC-M can paly will regret it in the near future.remember as of now we are not sure of the exact reasons as to why the two factions of the mdc failed to unite before the march elections…?????? Never ever underestimate zanu pf. Those guys have real degrees and have been to moza and back-nyadzonya and back etc. zvinoda wakashingamoyo.Tony blair failed and in the end has been confined to the dustbins of history. zimbabwe is a different situation. kana middle east haisvike ipapao.I dont know why but i think the outcome of the situation in zimbabwe has a lot to do with how Africa as a whole will turn out in the end.A successful outcome is if we come out of it trully empowered and united. any other result will result in the break up of the whole of SADCC. This time black people should make a statement to the whole world that we do not believe in divide and rule-tribal nonsense that most of africa is acustomed to. we are intelligent peace loving people.lets show the whole world that we can unite as a people and solve our own problems.
Morgan has been on the road for too long seeking advise-at the end of the day he should have his own balls and come up with a vision for zimbabwe that the people agree with and he can be happy with because at the end of the day all he is doing by consulting odinga etc is reating friction in SADCC and other african countries. Botswana is one example of a country at odds with zimbabwe as a result of morgan’s tour of hatred campaign around africa.Kenya or should i say odinga is another one. i will leave zambia out of it for now because of the current circumstances there.How much consulting does some one with leadership qualities have to do. i think the people to consult are us zimbabweans . mugabe always consults his people -you dont see him globtrotting to afghanistan to seek advise on anything. At the end of the day its the people he works with and the supporters who will come up with the answers—-we should say no to politics dzechigwara. I dont see the point in consulting odiga who is nothing in kenya.what can he bring to the table except blood of kenyans and all the homelessness that came with it.if he is seeking advise on how to start similar activities in zimbabwe then good luck. In zimbabwe we are peace loving…we went through the most terrible war and lives were lost so we will not be pushed into violence.
The only way to solve the problem is by dialogue-from what i have been reading in the papers it seems we were close to a result but for minor sticking points..so why not put more enegy into trying to break the deadlock and solve the sticking points than run around the whole continent again wasting valuable fuel and causing a lot of carbo footprint along the way.this is politics of the doomed who cant think for themselves.why consult the whole world? **** all this consultation ****. if i want something , i just put it down and say guys this is my script which is driven by the people -if you dont like it then there is no deal…maybe make up one or two consessions..end of story. What a bloody time waster..how many more people have to die before he makes a decision.just because violence has eased down it doesnt mean people are not dying of starvation or illnesses etc. his family is ok in south africa.
mutambara and his crew are at least trying to play the zimbabwe card-they are actually putting zimbabweans first instead of their political a****ons.whats wrong with voting for zanu or with zanu pf if it means better economic and political progress for the people of zimbabwe? lets do the right thing.He has started flip flopping again. people of zimbabwe its time to cut your losses and dump this guy. he has failed.morgan can not and will never bring prosperity to zimbabwe. he is too confused.get biti to lead the party for now.
GUYS… **** THE NEXT PERSON WHO WILL MENTION THE WORD “NDEBELE” OR “SHONA” AFTER READING THIS COMMENT. WHY SHOULD WE LIMIT OURSELVES TO TRIBES WHICH WE DO NOT CHOOSE TO BELONG TO. TRIBE, JUST LIKE RACE, COLOUR, HEIGHT, COMPLEXION, GEOGRAPHICAL PLACE OF BIRTH, ARE NOT, AND CANNOT BE CHOSEN. OTHERWISE WE MAY END UP LOWERING OURSELVES TO BEING LESS THAN DOGS WHICH, DESPITE DIFFERENCES IN THEIR BREED CAN COEXIST WELL ONCE THEY GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
Scarface.Voting for zanu or zanu pf means there will be NO economic or political progress for the people of Zimbabwe.Why have zanu not progressed in the 28 years that they have been in power.They have brought the country to its knees.They started with a well established country so how do you expect them to progress now that they have destroyed that country and they now have nothing.
Varume vananhu ve m.d.c.M. izere zviva tengesi chaizvo.zva kafunda nhema zvivanhu izvi.ini zvangu handimbofi ndakateerera mese zva munotaura.vanhu ava vatengesi zvachose.i will always go by my president mr tsvangirai.asi kana munhu akanganisa hatiregere kuti mu ndebele nhai.