Botswana to cut Diplomatic ties with Zimbabwe
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November 19, 2008 | By Mellisa Dube-Koketso | © zimbabwemetro.com ⋅
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The government of Botswana will cut diplomatic ties with Zimbabwe within six months if the proposed powersharing deal with the MDC collapses,Metro has established.
Addressing Botswana’s Parliament Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation minister, Phandu Skelemani hinted on the possible development telling the Assembly that if the deal collapses in the next six months, his government will “go back to square one” by not recognising Mugabe as president nor his government.
“Consequent to this allegation, Botswana was shocked by the baseless and absurd charges that were levelled at Botswana by authorities in Zimbabwe at the extraordinary meeting of the Interstate Defence and Security Committee of the Organ Troika held in Maputo on November 5 2008.
“The allegations that the government of Botswana would wish to train foreign nationals on its territory to effect regime change is ridiculous and all who are aware of Botswana’s longstanding commitment to the principles of good neighbourliness, non-interference in the internal affairs of others, and peaceful resolution of disputes in our region and elsewhere would no doubt attest to this,” Skelemani said.
Meanwhile state media in Zimbabwe is reporting that a draft of the Constitutional Amendment Number 19 Bill has been completed and has been sent to the facilitator, former South African president Thabo Mbeki’s legal team.
“Draft Constitutional Amendment Bill Number 19 has been completed and sent to the mediator in South Africa after scrutiny by the parties concerned,” ZANU PF’s Sikhanyiso Ndlovu reportedly told church leaders on Monday.
However Ndlovu claimed that Mugabe has appoint a Cabinet first before the Bill is passed in Parliament.
“Constitutional Amendment Number 19 cannot be done right away without a Cabinet. The Legal and Constitutional Affairs Ministry is with the MDC-T and the minister must steer the Bill at all the stages. A Bill cannot go to Parliament if it is not approved by Cabinet,” Ndlovu said.
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they can go to hell these bastwana’s.
How stupid! You really think you have the power to sent the Batswana to hell just like ZANU PF has sent the majority of Zimbabweans to hell with it policies. Wake up, arrogance will never solve our mess. Our neighbours remain diplomatically tied to us simply because it it humane, we are an embarrassment and pamuromo pawakadzidziswa naSekukru hapavaki musha iweNgomandiyo. Inherit sekuru’s good and now burried statesmanship and NOT his pamuromo.
I hope Botswana will be our Tanzania during Idi Amini days.
Batswana what a good move.Keep pressuring old matibili to relinguish power munhu wepi anenge chidhoma ngaaachienda imba yemunhu
I agree with moms. I hope Khama will have Julius Nyerere’s balls and kick the bastard’s ass. We can also have another Entebbe Raid!
I respect the Batswanas.
Ngomandiyo u’r a disgrace. Iwe ‘go to hell and never come back’. Mwana wembwa.
musadherere Zim vakomana, Botswana have no balls and capabilities to effect anything to our nation, this is just a chihuahua, wanting a pitbull to initiate a chase
maTswana afarisa kusvikira anongedzera mai ne****, imbwa dzevanhu, kundonyera **** muvhu, kunyo kwanamai venyu, siyanayi nesu
Botwana ngaitibvire kumhepo!!
Come on guys,its the Batswana’s point of view,its their way of trying to pressure our leaders to start acting on the zim situation.
Time will tell….
Khama should in the next six months hold Presidential elections. He was never elected by popular vote. Bots is itching for a fight which its 5000 soldiers will lose to the Zim police Black Boot (Support Unit). Snding the ZDF will be a massacre. So Comrade Sekelani, Elections first. There is a log in your eye.
Ngomandiyo you are sick,please seek medical attention asap.
stop writing rubbish. it is your relatives who voted Zanu in 1980. Mugabe never imposed himself on the people.
the tswana move will be quite acceptible bcoz we are tired of this old man who does not accept kuti ushe ndehwemadzoro.
Botswana is now limiting the amount of mealie meal Zimbabweans can buy and carry across the border. What happened to National Foods roller meal and Pearlenta , and to Blue Ribbons Chibataura and Ngwerewere.Cholera is hitting the country hard. I think even in 1918, life was better for our people. Muchafa nenzara
Black African, You must be having a laugh if you think ZDF will massacre the Botswana army. 90 % of the ZDF are just walking corpses because of malnutrition and hunger. Your Baboon should hold presidential elections as he was never elected by popular vote.Infact he was voted out by popular vote.
People like Ngomandiyo who have this zanupf kind of mentality are the ones who are pulling our country down they dont seem to see reason, Botwana must be praised for their efforts and for standing up to a dictator shame on you Ngomandiyo bvisa cap iyo and see beyond the horizon
These zanu fools blame the food shortage on sanctions that don’t exist.Before that idiot baboon destroyed the country all seed maize was grown locally in Zimbabwe by Zimbabweans.Sanctions could have no effect on that. All fuel imports came from South Africa.As far as i know today South Africa do not have sanctions on Zimbabwe.There should be no shortage of fuel. All of Zimbabwes fertilizer was mined and produced by Zimbabwe Phosphates on the outskirts of Msasa.Sanctions could not effect that.All electricity was produced at Wankie Power Station,Kariba Power Station, Harare Power Station and the balance was imported from Zambia, South Africa, Mocambique and the congo.As far as i know , none of these countries have sanctions on Zimbabwe.All Beef, Pork,Mutton,Chickens and Fish were produced locally by Zimbabwean farmers in Zimbabwe and the stock feeds to feed these animals was also produced locally by Zimbabwean farmers in Zimbabwe. Sanctions should have no effect on that . All Zimbabwes sugar was grown locally in the lowveld by Triangle Limited and Hippo Valley Estates with local Zimbabwean farmers.From the sugar estates Zimbabwe exported sugar and ethonal to South Africa to procure foreign currency to import raw materials.Again, South Africa do not have sanctions on Zimbabwe. All food was manufactured locally by local Zimbabwean companies who purchased the seeds and grains from the Grain Marketing Board. Sanctions could not effect this. Sanctions do not stop tourists from visiting a country from where more foreign currency is procured.
Stop blaming sanctions that do not exist for the corrupt and murderous way that you zanu monkeys have mismanaged and destroyed the country. Rhodesia was built and grew to what you monkeys inherited with full international sanctions imposed on it. If they could do it why cant you idiots.
That baboon(Robert Mugabe) needs to be killed…too bad a lot of innocent people have had to die first.I say let Botswana teach some Zims how to get the job done..terminate that disease and show-off the baboon’s ugly scalp for everyone to see.
BOTOKA. Here Here.
ZIMBABWE’S police headquarters were rocked by a bomb blast early yesterday but no one was injured.
# Zim war vets blast Motlanthe, SADC
# Zimbabwe Special Report
The police said the bomb, which exploded at the Morris police depot in Harare, damaged offices used by the central investigations department and Interpol.
“All documents related to car clearances and other investigations have been destroyed,” said a police sergeant.
He said the police had arrested some soldiers in connection with the blast but he could not say how many.
The suspects were from a nearby army barracks, known as KG Six, situated behind Morris depot.
“We are still waiting for more details,” said the source.
The police have declined to make any official comment on the blast, which occurred inside a high security area.
This is the second time a police station has been bombed in the past few months. On August 2, a bomb exploded on the second floor of the Harare Central police station.
At the time, police Commissioner-General Augustine Chihuri said: “We are convinced that, as an organisation, we might not come out clean on the bombing issue.”
The blast at the central police station also targeted the CID office, where other unexploded devices were found.
“Destruction is not the solution. Anyone with a grievance should come to my office so that it will be addressed,” said Chihuri.
Last night police at Morris depot were placed on high alert.
All these Zimba who are supporting Botswana’s claim are asylum seekers in EU and Canada knowing that this will secure them for little longer.
Well done Ian Khama i am a Zimbabwean living in exile for 10 years well done you are a brave man left Zambia and Mozambique well done i wish South Africa will open there eyes and see the light but i think if the world cup is moved then they will wake up
Iwe kwana. Uri muZimbabwe muhlovoyi anokorokotedza NGOCHANI?
gorongoza -takarova-congo takarova-chimurenga takarova. We can be viscious as gukurahundi is living example…..botswana will not last a day even with our undernourished soldiers. Let there be peace because anything other than that mdc with their coward dictator who is hanging on to power yet again in stead of stepping down end of term feb 2009 has no chance.sezvazviri…..
what can zim get from Botswana a country with leaders who do n”t fight for the empowerment of its people, a country ful of workers. its resources belong to the master Britain and its people eat from what the master left. shame on you, you are a thorn in the fresh in SADC. Ian Khama these cowboys you brag about you will see what they will do to you soon after finishing your Diamond. learn from Saddam . You think you know better than MBEKI. MOTHLATHE. ROBERT and all these great SADC leaders. no you know nothing.SADC will be much better without this foolish country.
Chivotapasi, at least Botswana workers are eating something, unlike the empowered but ver hungry Zimbabweans. A country that cannot even produce mealie meal. A country so ashamed of even using their own money and they quote all prices in in foreign currency. A notice on a toilet the south African side of the border reads “use only toilet paper, no newspapers, magazines or zim dollars” Are you empowered, as a country. Mdi.di wakho
I only hope the rest of SADC in particular and Africa in general can do the same. No, Not withdraw their diplomatic missions but publicly say they will do son 6 months. Tis puts pressure on Mugabe to walk the walk and talk the talk.
As for war, people let’s not kid ourselves, Botswana might be weak militarily in terms of experience but they have a US base and better arms than ZNA. All the soldiers in ZNA are disgruntled and want out of the country. Who will go to Botswana and kill for Mugabe right now? The ZNA is suffering from soldiers running away. Remember the drama at KG6 when some army commander rounded up the soldiers to tell them no leave would be given in the run up to elections and no one was retiring from the army? Remember the soldiers openly booing their commanders at that meeting ans saying “tinotiza!” Remember the flyers that circulated at the same KG6 saying if the authorities didn’t do something there would be an incident?
Musatembe mauto asiri enyu. Mauto aya anobva muvanhu, vanhu vacho ndivo vamaiponda. Saka how can a soldier go and do Mugabe’s bidding in Botswana like in DRC only to come back home and find that his mother and father starved to death in the rural areas and his brothers can’t access money from the bank and his kids are not going to school.
Mugabe will soon be left with only Chatunga and Pamire Jnr to send to war (and Grace of course)
Ana Chinamasa are just changing documents as if they have a future in ZImbabwe yet vana vake vapera neAIDS, including uya wekufa kustates last year. Anga aringochani uya, tese tayizviona
what do these botswana people think they have that can make us better people??? Nxa!!
Those who are advocating for war with Botswana remember what happened with Georgia pamaolympics. Yakanzi enda unorova Osetia hapana anokururova, ndimukoma Bush vaidaro apo. Vakazoti vorohwa neRussia takaona America yongoti mayaz musadaro, cant pindira. Munofurira Botswana tikaswera tairova nemablack bhutsu. Hatingatume masoja coz they are cooking b**** fish in the Congo.
Thank you Botswana for the pressure you are giving our dictactor those who say the President of South Africa has better wisdom are talking nonsense the Pula is stronger than the Rand that should mean something to you. Don’t even think of the Zimbabwean army fighting the Botswana army, our soldiers are rushing to the toilet because of cholera, some of them are dying of AIDS, some of them were forced to stay in the arm force. We have no army in Zim forget, it saddens me that the education we were able to receive is going to waste. We are an educated nation, by now we could be competing with the Rand and Pula coz Zimbabweans are educated and are hard workers. Mugabe doesn’t belong to our future whoever said that Zimbabwe will never be a country without this Zimbwabwean version of Idi Amin. Enough is enough.
It’s sad zimbabbwe is suffering while a lot of their educated citizens are in Botswana,South Africa,UK,Canada…all over the world.I dont know why anyone would still be supporting Mugabe,why are there still people blaming the British but not Mugabe after he’d ruled for 28 years,WHY?
i have not seen any evidence of educated zimbabweans if this nonsense i read here is anything to go by.Who are these educated zimbabweans and who educated them? Mugabe? I dont know why i keep hearing these stories of educated zimbabweans…shut up and if you are educated then how come you cant even work out how he evil sanctions work? You still dont believe here are sanctions in zimbabwe…what bloody education? your so called next president is an embarassment with not even ZJC.junior certificate..bloody education. I have never seen a party with so many different speakers in my life…chamis-biti-sibitshiwe-morgan-khuphe and they all have different thins to say..they do not sing from the same hymn book.madofo..
Varume let’s protest against this regime - over 2000 people vafa neCHOLERA!!! MDC please organise a MASS PROTEST muone support yamunopihwa neruzhinji. People are competing with baboons for wild fruits. Kune vari kuDiaspora - ichokwadi ichi chandareva - Mugabe atiuraya takatarira. Imagine 100usd = 10 000 000 000 000 000 000zwd - Nyika yepi iyoyo? Even mapurisa nemasoja acho vafembekana nemudhara uyu - ungape murume mukuru 1 000 000zwd per month - mari isingakwane kuenda nekudzoka kutown? Let’s face it KUSIRI KUFA NDEKUPI???
Khama ndizvo,kwete **** inonzi Mbeki.Big up Botswana
Scarface…who are you to tell other people to shut up?
If you think that telling people sick [heeee masanctions ....heeeeeeeeee masunctions] is what shows you are educated ,then scarface…you are doomed {uri MH@T@ yehuku}
zanu ndiyo yakazara madofo..ndokusaka ichishandisa mapolicies echidofo.
Why do you use coersion as a management tool in zanu? …..because it is for madofo done by madofo.
Why does Scarface works so hard in defence for mugabe?…..becuase he is a lazy dofo anxiously waiting to be appointed.
Why WAS zanu stronghold in the rural areas?
ANSWER ME SCARFACE ??
The people of Zimbabwe ignored the voice of reason when they were told by Joshua in 1980 about the folly of voting Zanu. Just after his election defeat on 4 March 1980, Nkomo’s first remarks was “ You give them one man one vote and this is what they will do with it” People took as sour grapes coming from a loser. Now you are seeing what the old man (uMdala) was warning about. Your relatives (Fathers , ****s, maininis, sekurus, etc) chose this for you and you have to live with it. You are now experiencing what we were talking about since 1980. People laughed at us when we moved to South Africa, now you are also coming here. Seka urema wafa. Do not laugh at other people’s misery while you are still alive and kicking.Ini ndinechivindi che gudo chekujuruja ne m.bo.r.o.
Scarface I also do not have ZJC but I am a Rand millionnaire. Food for thought.Tsvangirai is a better leader than Mugabe. Mugabe is a ruler/dictator not a leader.M.SA.THA.N.YO.KO.
Iwe FIXA, uri zibenzi remunhu…..Mazidofo evanhu in the western sponsored mdc-t .,just like their uneducated leader Tsvangi…MDC-T yakazara nemazidofo nemastooges anoshandiswa nemaoutsiders….Zvimbwasungata , sellouts, puppets in mdc-t…nyaya kekushaya dzidzo uyi..Honai, your leader is disgracing himself in Europe…Fixa you know very well that zimbabwe is under illegal economic sanctions that Tsvangi called for., why are you so blind?? is it naivety or kudhibha..Tell me fixa how did your leader miss out on education after independence?? when education was free for all??Tsvangi kushaya kana ZJC certificate zvayo., 28 years after independence !!!Ndazvikonewa izvi..You know, Our parents attended night school soon after independence and completed their o’ levels….Scarface is good mufesi….
Msilabhundu you claim that you are a rand millionaire …Imari yekuba iyi….Imari yeugevha…You know that even a person who never went to primary school can be a rand billionaire kana ari mbavha inopaza mabanks kana matsotsi who swindle people their money…Therefore msilabhundu , you’re mentally retarded just like your uneducated leader tsvangi…Mese hamuna kudzidza, you confirmed it yourself, that’s why you’re both clueless numbskulls…
Black African is one of Mugabe`s Fools…Who said Botswana wants war. Those hungry SUPPORT UNITS Won`t risk their lives for an old useless man…For your own infomation i am one of them..Your obviously don`t know what is happening in there.Come on fool we are starving…
Tsvangson leader, thats a joke. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to establish that. Just look @ the way the guy flip flops to try & cater for his western handlers. Botswana, Prof Moyo summed elaborately, Khama’s government is a military junta masquerading as a democracy. They were never any elections & thus they have no right to criticize Zim.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the MDC was formed in 1999 and this would mean in 2009 the party will be celebrating 10yrs in existence. The party constitution limits a a presidential term to 2 five year terms and this would mean Tsvangson is not eligible after the 2009 congress. Ooops almost fogot, that aint gonna happen cause now its known as MDC-T after the 2007 split effectively meaning that according to some loyalists Tsvangson is in the 1st term of his presidency and the congress will only be in 2012. Whats the difference between Bob and Tsangson now.
The point is simply that we shouldnt make excuse for our leaders but our leaders should be accountable to us. We are making the same mistaking of blindly following political leaders and making them immune to criticism.
Fungai Mugabe akadzidza but he has failed dismally to run the country.Just like you, he is a king of insults. What he knows best is to insult his opponents. What is surprising is that I went to visit Zimbabwe in November, at a school in Bulawayo there were 5 teachers out of a possible 90 teachers. I came back to Cape Town last week and went to one Indian/ muslim school, the whole maths and science department is full of Zimbabweans. Your educated leader has lead the education system that once his pride to crumble. I remember in the late 1990s a postman earned more than a teacher. Your educated leader has reduced us to beggars, using forex to bring North Koreans to train a genocide machine, how much money did the whole gukurahundi operation cost? How much money was spent in DRC or Murambatsvina? How much money was used to replace the airforce plans sabotaged by Ken Flower and his cronies? Mugabe is stupid. Did he really think Ken Flower was willing to serve him? He prefared to keep ex-Rhodesians in army and CIO and ignored us EX-Zipra. I am not ashamed that I was one of the dissidents. I took advantage of the amnesty, and really benefited from Z$50000, paid to us in 1997, that set me up but destroyed Zimbabwe, because the person who gave us the money did not think about the future of the country. So much for Mugabe being educated. Wazalwa nge bhonyaponya
remove sanctions and see if any zim can go to any country. its the sanctions that have made people in zim to look for food everywhere. its not Mugabe’s rule like what the western world especialy Britain would want to to believe. manje hunger or sanction mugabe will rule forever. if Botswana continue to provoke zim we will get there and teach him a good lesson.Keep out Satan Ian Khama.
chitovapasi. How do these imagenative sanctions that you keep refering to prevent Zimbabwean farmers from planting crops for the production of food.????????????????????????????????????????
Zanu supporters are idiots thank you baba for asking such a crucial question who removed the hands of the people that were given farms to plant maize, tobaco, wheat, sunflower etc. Zanu is a destructive party and all these people who still support them were copying during exams there are dofos. What sanctions plant crops you zanu idiots, you raped the farmers wives and daugthers made braais with their beef cattle and what do you expect to eat. zanu is a short sighted party, a party of murderers, robbers, thugs etc. We are tired about the education line, mugabe and his degrees have destroyed Zim don’t even go there. BREAKING NEWS. There is a comission of enquiry set up by mugabe for the following reasons:
1. How Morgan Tswangirai managed to go overseas with a ETD.
2. Why Morgan Tswangirai is campaigning for humanitarian aid for ordinary zimbabwean as this is against the policies of the ruling party Zanu.
3. Who is funding Morgan Tswangirai flights overseas.
We are anxiously waiting to see the report of this comission headed by Charamba.
Baba, you only make a total fool of yourself by keeping on denying existence of economic sanctions when your party, which invited them acknowledged their existence ….Baba, for your own information, MDC-T acknowledged for the first time that Zimbabwe has been under illegal economic strangulation in article iv of the GNU deal…The Western proxies conceeded that all forms of sanctions in place, declared and undeclared have had a ruinous impact on the economy…..These illegal sanctions have caused untold suffering to farmers as they’re facing shortages of fertilisers,chemicals and fuel due to reduced productivity by our agricultural input companies…Zimbabwe is under western economic strangulation , therefore it’s inevitable that farmers face shortages of critical inputs..The western stooges in mdc-t have also stalled progress in all sectors of the economy, agriculture included by stalling the GNU deal and thus prolonging the political bickering…Therefore, the current polarisation caused by mdc-t’s irrationality and intransigence is interupting agricultural progress…..Our revolutionary party, Zanu pf is trying its best under these difficult circumstances to equip our farmers, giving them seed and fertiliser etc So please , Baba don’t tell me that Tsvangi and his mdc-t cohorts were “trapped” again to acknowledge this article iv clause on sanctions ….
fungusface aka fungai aka scarface. Where does your fertilizer come from ? Answer. Zimbabwe phosphates in msasa. Where does your fuel come from ? Answer . South Africa . They do not have sanctions on Zimbabwe. Where does your seed maize come from ? Answer . It is grown locally in Zimbabwe. Where does your electricity come from. It does not come from the UK or America. The UK and America do not controll your rainfall.Why do you have no food ????????????? It is not caused by sanctions but by the fact that you useless twats got rid of the people who were feeding you. They were called farmers. You idiots have screwed up and have no idea on how to do things for your self because you are all corrupt.You only know how to beg. The world is wise to you monkeys now and will not fall into the same trap that you have used before.Even donations from the Western world have dried up since we have shown the Western world what you corrupt people do with the funds.All the evidence is there for anyone to see. Why do you always have to be given seed and fertilizer. This was never done before when Zimbabwe had real farmers and food was plenty.What have you monkeys done with all the equipment you stole when you robbed the farms ????.You idiots are incapable of achieving anything on your own.The world knows that sanctions do not stop anyone from growing food and each time you use that excuse they will continue to smile at you useless idiots because they now know how useless you are.
Some contributors on this chat really show Mugabe’s legacy…. lack of tolerance of people with differnt views. Why calling each other names or even call other less educated? Thats Mugabe’s legacy… I wish people could just highlight their argument without showing their traits they acquired from Matibili… God help us! Muagbe has left legacy of violence and hate
Baba muri right. Chinos akagocha dairy cows and turned back and said mukaka hakuchina because of sanctions… who are they kidding?
60 hexillion fraud …hahahahahahahahah and the country is still standing-how is this possible? When the situation has turned a leaf , the west should come over and come up with a new economic concept based on the zimbabwe situation.we are talking hexillions and yet we are still walking.inflation is billions but we are not moving…this is amazing resiliance by the zimbabwe people.Look at the west , one tick in the system and the whole bloody system crumbles-credit crunch this and that. In zimbabwe people have paid for their houses in cash…not credit cards and bank loans…hexillion ..hahahahahahahah what madness!!!!
Scarface. what you don’t understand is that people in the west are not hungry.There is no shortage of fuel.They do not queue for a loaf of bread or to draw their money from the bank.They are not sleeping on the streets.They do not have any shortage of medicine.All of their hospitals are still working 100 %.Everything in the west is still functioning 100 %. Can the same be said for Zimbabwe.?????????????
DOES ANYONE IN MDC HAVE AT LEAST A ZJC? ANYONE AT ALL? MAROVHA..
SOUTH AFRICA HAS SAID IT WILL ONLY PROVIDE THE 30 MILLION AID WHEN A GVT HAS BEEN FORMED…HAHAHAHA -NOW THOSE WHO LOVE SANCTIONS WILL START PRAISING SA FOR TAKING A TOUGH STANCE AGAINST ZIMBABWE. AKA ZANU PF GVT.WE WILL HEAR ALL SORTS LIKE THE NEW PRESIDENT IS A AFRICAN HERO..HAHAHAHA EVEN MUTAMBRA FLIP FLOPS THIS WAY AND THAT WAY.AS LONG AS HE IS ON THE MDC SIDE HE IS A ANGEL.THE MINUTE HE SAYS ANYTHING THAT SUPPORTS ZANU PF POLICY BE IT TRUE OR NOT, HE BECOMES EVIL -A DEVIL -SELL OUT .HE IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO TAKE A POSITION IN LINE WITH MDC POLICY OTHERWISE HE IS GIVEN ALL SORTS OF INSULTS…MAPENZI EVANHU..
mr baba -not sleeping on the streets? how many businesses are closing daily-house reposessions? iwe ka iwe.one day i will get a camcorder and drive around the country and show you poverty in the west like you have never seen before…how many people in zim are losing houses on that scale..iceland crumbled-ukrain crumbled-pakistan crumbled-there are a few more countries crumbling as we speak..if it were not for the IMF bailing them out , they would all be ****ed.Imagine if the imf bailed us out on our very little debt and then allow us credit facilities—that is all that we need to perform..they can even keep their aid.
Scarface. All countries in the world have small areas of poverty. The whole of Zimbabwe is in poverty.You don’t need to drive around Zimbabwe to see it because it is everywhere.Why would the IMF want to lend you more money when they know it will never be repaid.
The International Monetary Fund has refused to restore Zimbabwe’s voting rights within the financial agency.
The IMF board said Zimbabwe still owed a further $119m (£68.5m) to a poverty reduction and emergency scheme
Why dont you beggars pay your debts ?????????????????????
Scarface you are exposing your lack of knowledge of issues maybe you only have ZJC, really you don’t need a camcorder in Zim to provide evidence of poverty as you would do in those countries you are mentioning the whole country is starving you are defending a hopeless case, give us our country back zanu idiots. We want to rebuild our country, you have no friends because you owe a lot outside this is a fact and no one is going to bail you out. You even mentioning what the South African gvt is saying about conditions of the R30M aid, we did not have to say it. Your party is doomed, we are not considering the RSA President as an African hero he is a coward he could not chase away mugabe from the SADC summit when he was asked to excuse the meeting to discuss the sticking points. Your mad bod needs psychiatric help.
International envoys’ Zimbabwe visit condemned by Robert Mugabe
A trio of elder statesmen are set to fly in to inspect the situation in Zimbabwe this weekend despite, claims from President Mugabe that they are not welcome and are bent on “illegal regime change”.
Jimmy Carter, the former US President; Kofi Annan, the the former UN secretary-general; and Graca Machel, the wife of Nelson Mandela, are planning a two-day visit to assess the country’s humanitarian catastrophe and to mobilise international help. Zimbabwe is facing several disasters: famine, a cholera epidemic, moribund state and private institutions and inflation measured in the billions.
The trio — members of the Elders, a group of ten respected figures formed to tackle international crises — will be acting in defiance of the Government, which has today issued a warning that they should stay away. It said in an unattributed statement that the trio were “a clique… of personalities hostile to Zimbabwe, a partisan mission by a group of people with partisan interests”.
In a coded reference to Western intelligence agencies the statement added: “The Government would want to know whose mission they are representing and who they report to.”
Mr Annan issued a counter-statement today to say that he and his colleagues would “make a first-hand assessment of the humanitarian situation in Zimbabwe, to meet those working on the ground, to better assess the extent of the crisis and how assistance can be improved”.
He also said that the trio had sought meetings with political leaders and would be pleased to hear their views, but added that they had “no intention” of being involved with the stalemated attempts to bring Mr Mugabe and Morgan Tsvangirai, leader of the Movement for Democratic Change, to set up a transitional power-sharing government. Diplomatic sources said that their requests for a meeting with Mr Mugabe had been met with silence. “My colleagues and I look forward to our visit,” Mr Annan concluded.
In the past unwanted visitors have simply been turned back at the airport; three years ago a group of top South African trade unionists were arrested and driven 600km (375 miles) back to the border.
The trio’s status may be giving the regime uncomfortable pause for thought, however, as it contemplates the effect on international opinion of kicking them out.
Further pressure was piled on Mr Mugabe today when South Africa said that it would not release nearly $30 million (£20 million)in agricultural aid to Zimbabwe until a new government had been formed there, as it prepares to host new power-sharing talks next week.
The Elders will find a country on the brink of complete collapse. Hundreds of children have starved to death in barely functioning hospitals; almost 300 people have died in a cholera epidemic; and 80 per cent of the population lives in poverty. The only state organisation that was working this week was the riot police who yesterday beat up doctors and nurses protesting at the shortage of drugs and linen for their hospitals.
“This will be a demonstration of how staggeringly mean-spirited, how small-minded and brutally selfish this regime is,” said a Western diplomat. “They really care about nothing except being in absolute control.”
Scareface,you’re a lost soul,all i can do is pray for you…i know if you’re in Zimbabwe now,chances are you’ll either die of hunger or lack of proper medical treatment because of no medicines,doctors,nurses…you’re most probably HIV positive,you just dont know it yet until you start ****ting all over the place.
Scarface is not in Zimbabwe. He is enjoying the good life in the west.
Scarface ,why don’t you go to Zimdaily.com and read an article by MP Hon Jameson Timba,maybe it can give you a better insight of the MDC.
CHRA made a micro survey of the frequency of water supplies in the suburbs of Harare. Below is a table (Figure 1) which shows some of Harare’s residential areas and their water supply patterns:
Figure 1
Area Water supply frequency
Mabvuku Tafara Most parts of the suburbs have had no tap water since 2006
Ruwa Receives water once (4 to 5 hours on a single day) per month. The water
is usually available during the late night hours.
Glen Lorne Most parts have been without water for the past 8 months, others receive
it for less than a day in a month.
Masasa Park Receives water once (4 to 5 hours ) per month
Greendale Without water for the past 4 months, some parts now receiving water for
less than 5 hours per week.
Budiriro Receiving visibly unclean water for less than 10 hours per week.
Dzivarasekwa Usually no supplies during weekends but the water is not clean and has dirt
particles that can be seen by the naked eye.
Hatfield Two to three days in every week
Chisipite Jan-April 2008 (6 hrs a month), May- Sept 2008 (No supplies), Oct to date
(an average of 4 hrs a month).
Kuwadzana Supplies are available for an average of three days per week
Glen View Visibly unclean water for less than 10 hours per week. Glen view went for
more than three consecutive weeks without supplies in October.
Glen Norah Two times a week (supplies are usually five hours long)
Warren Park Receives water for an average of 2 days per week; between 0100 and
0300hrs) This has been going on for the past Two months. The little water
that is available is visibly unclean.
Scarface. Where in the western world do you see this.??????????????????????????????
zimdaily is a mdc puppet site…i read for fun but dont take what they say seriously.as a businessnman i look for advertising banners to get more contacts. The only real news is on the HERALD. Even mdc supporters love the herald because it is our local heritage newspaper.
Kofi ANAN failed when head of UN to do anything for Africa. Iraqi was invaded on false infornmation and he did nothing. Now he has realised his balls are shrinking and has decided its time to help zimbabwe…if he wants to help start with sanctions dude. Start with congo who have a much urgent need of help as we speak. Our story is that of sanctions -period.
Baba -these countries have b**** populations so you dont see the poverty-when 300 people lose their houses a day that is poverty .even in america those negros are stuggling -but they dont show you fools these images. why should they? When they show Africa and indeed other developing countries all they show you is poverty. You will never see the beautiful buildings -safaris-what have you.There has always been poverty in zimbabwe even during the good old days of no sanctions .But there was no need for anyone to go around filming to support their regime change agendas etc.You should watch programs that study poverty in your diaspora hoods to see how bad it is. They will not show you so unless you get out there yourself and find out you will never know.
Thats the pshycology they use on you when they bargain for your resources..you have lost the battle before its begun. As i write more job losses are being announced. gvt borrowing now up to 37 billion pounds as we speak. yes baba you will say they can afford it..america has trillions owed.The car industry is faltering with millions of jobs at stake. the pound has taken a pounding and i am sure you as a member of the diaspora community have felt it. Sending money home becomes a bit tight..1-145 vs the ud dollar…iwe. I have told you of these countries that have received funding from IMF..you still refuse to understand. Without this funding even zimbabwe would look like Dubai compared to them. They dont even have mazhanje to keep them going in hard times..at least we do because we are blessed like that. I remeber ndichifudza mombe and eating apples -mazhanje-hacha-you name it and it was all there.It was part of my lunch and i loved it. Now you turn around and say heeeee people are eating fruits this and that..we have been doing that since the beginning of time. Why should the west find that amazing? we Africans make use of our resources..period. If there is no sadza we turn to god’s other gifts for survival.WHAT do they have?
Anyway i dont have to tell you much.you know much of the truth anyway and it is up to you how you what you want to believe.My advise to you is dont let people come to your country to tell you about your country. You should know your own culture and lifestyle and the fact that we have always had poverty in africa even zimbabwe. people have always ate wild fruits and hunted wild animals.tichi teva mbeva. i have done it all guys so i know what i am talking about.we have always travelled miles and miles to fetch water-clean water and thats not new.
I tell you what - Gukurahundi happened in 1980-did you hear a word from Morgan or any of his western bosses complain then? No no no- because they only choose to show you what they want and when it benefits them. This gukurahundi benefits or fits into their regime change agenda so only now they have decided to talk about it.Where were they all those years? Did they not care about the ndebele people? What of morgan -where was he? What did he do about it then? zero…thats what i thought. But now every one has a masters degree on gukurahundi. even those born after it.Negros like you baba aill forever be slaves . I sometimes think you are white but the english is a bit dodgy for a whate person. But guys i dont mind valid criticism of the gvt based on facts.If you talk about corruption give us a few cases that you know like willowgate scandal.we even lost nyagumbo over that.yes it exists -all over africa and europe and america.so its not just the zim gvt that is corrupt.
Gossip news -lies -that is killing our people and our country. pasi nemanyepo.kofi Anan go back home you are not wanted.
All these guys talking about zimbabwe walking all over Botswana are more delusional than i thought.Maybe all these rantings make you feel powerful and you actually believe it. Maybe because you fought liberation wars you automatically think that you are militarily superior to Botswana.Maybe because of a population of around 12 million you think that you are mightier than Botswana.
So all i can say my African Brothers/Sisters/Neighbours is that; keep on dreaming! yes Keep on dreaming!
But i can guarantee you this; we might not have fought for our independence,we might have a population of 1.8 million and we might generally choose to listen to you go ballistic on us and keep quite.BUT,and you better listen good, we are NEITHER Mugabe NOR his General’s playground and we will NEVER be.If Mugabe, his Generals and the like-minded let their insolence and ignorance overshadow their reasoning and think that they can come shooting willy nilly at Botswana, they are going to regret and curse the days they were ever born and perhaps the goons who are always proclaiming to the world[all over the internet] how “powerful and Militarily Superior” Zimbabwe is will come to learn and accept that having fought a liberation war is NOT an indication of Military strength in this world.
In the meantime since it makes you feel good,mighty and untouchable,you can keep on dreaming but one wrong move and we will bring you back to the harsh realities of this world, a lesson you will never forget in history and maybe, just maybe, you will come back from cloud number nine that you all seem to be riding on.
fungai!!! indeed!!! he’s not following the advice his name entails. anyway they say if you keep repeating the same lie to yourself it ends up becoming the truth- and unfortunately there’s some of our oh so educated, literate brothers n sisters who have come to believe the lie of the so called economic sanctions. even govenor gono has found another scapegoat. chete that one’s a lunatic we can expect anything from him. have you ever seen the maniacal look on his face like when he was lambasting the banks in his recent address?
Scarface you really should put up or shut up. You are certainly not acting as if you are educated. Please list the sanctions that are being imposed upon Zimbabwe. Do your research and list them.
As for the Western credit crunch, yes people are losing their jobs in certain sectors and it will not be an easy time financially for many families. But they will not starve, their schools and hospitals shall remain fully functional, and their leaders continue to need to be receptive to their populations wishes if they want to remain in positions of authority. So I wouldn’t say its quiite the same as the situation in Zimbabwe.
SCARFACE: You are the greatest contributor of nonsense. Mbuya vanopfeka thong.