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Movement for Democratic Change(MDC) leader has accused ZANU PF of seeking to use the MDC to get the economy on track and also cautioned against imposing more sanctions.
Tsvangirai said that a Sept. 15 power-sharing agreement with President Robert Mugabe could still yield results despite fundamental disagreements between the two sides.
But Tsvangirai said an offer for his party to head the finance ministry was a trap. Tsvangirai, who was in France for an international development conference, said his party should be given more power over internal security.
“The country is broke and therefore he wants us to go and clean up the mess by establishing financial rules, because he does not have financial relations with anybody,” Tsvangirai said.
The dispute over ministries is leaving Zimbabweans without leadership as their economy collapses.
Tsvangirai said that, instead of more sanctions, the country must have emergency humanitarian aid. He said millions of people need food and medicine to counter the spread of cholera.
The EU has blacklisted 172 people linked to Mugabe’s government and four companies believed to financially support Mugabe and his ZANU-PF party. The EU also has frozen long-term aid projects in Zimbabwe and imposed an arms embargo.
I thought these buffoons are the ones who negotiated for the ministry of finance. They never cease to amaze these chaps.
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I agree with the MDC , all Mugabe wants is there good name and money that follows it.Mugabe wants to his grubby mits on more money, he does not give a hoot for the starving population of Zimbabwe, he should be driven out of Zimbabwe and jailed for crimes to the people of Zimbabwe, his Chinese mates arn’t giving him much money either, even after robbing Zimbabwe of the mineral whealth the Chinese are so hungry for.Do you see China giving food to Zimbabwe? no just more arms for Mugabe’s thugs.
God save Zimbabwe!!!
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“LOSER TAKES ALL”that’s what we have to acknowledge.Zanu PF is just too special to lose all.How about this..
“MUGABE FURIOUS THAT TSVANGARAI IS IN FRANCE”,,VOA news,apparently the old man doesn’t know how an ETD meant for South Africa only can carry him all the way to France.
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Abel, since the majority of us Zimbabweans are bufoons, can you help poor me access all my cash from my Bank. I am no longer able to stand an extra day in this queue but I know Blessed ones like you can access even quadrillions because you are patriotic, liberators, and angelic like all true ZANU PF blessed people. For all I know, what Tsvangirai is agitating for is what the majority of Zimabweans need; food, medicines, chorela free water, ZESA to the high density and not only to low density (this was exactly what Smith prioritised), access to their money from banks, agric-inputs (why is your Beloved China not giving us billion tons of Urea and maize seed anyway), …. such basic things that have become rare in our beautiful country. Perhaps you do not stay here in Zim? You are a student in some rich Western country? Hameno, but buffons need a life now.
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izvi hazvina chimuko hapana chinobuda apa… kutungana kwembudzi chaiko… freesh elections supervised by the international community. adyiwa obaya….
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Tichaona stop whining please over severe hardships that your party mdc-t invited…Naive Mdc supporters like tichaona never cease to astonish me when they complain a lot about being unable to access cash at the banks and other hardships., when they’re well aware that their party campaigned for a German company to impose an embargo on paper for printing bank notes….Tsvangirai was shown on zbc tv around 2001-2 calling for South Africa to cut off electricity, fuel and trade links to Zimbabwe.,the western stooge and his mdc cohorts subsequently went on to globetrot in europe and usa calling for economic sanctions on his own supporters….The question is, why are Mdc-t supporters like tichaona here whinning about the devastating repeccursions of the economic strangulation their party invited? These people are well aware that tsvangirai is in europe calling for more hardships and the entire nation’s progress has been stalled since march by his refusal to put people first & join GNU…Over the past week, Tsvangirai has been a total disgrace…The stooge is doing more and more damage to himself as far as africa is concerned…Tsvangirai’s irresponsible utterances he’s making in europe only confirms an already widely held view that he’s a power hungry sellout, a western stooge who disrespects african leaders and salutes europeans , a self centred sellout who feels the entire nation has to suffer until he gets everything he wants from the deal..
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Tsvangirayi, why didnt you refuse the finance ministry without home affairs. Now you are seeing the honey in finance ministry, you want security ministries to secure you when you are looting within a short time you will be in charge. End of January is not far for your term to end.
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Tichaona, you are typical MDC stuff. Flip-flopping like your leader. Very forgetfull indeed. Was it not MDC that was crying for Ministryu of Finance just a few weeks ago. You claimed then that Zanu pf had failed for the past 28 years so had nothing new to offer which is true anyway. So what has changed now. You can never rule a country when you are always whining like that. Take a position and stick with it otherwise people will never take you seriously. Next thing you will tell us that getting foreign affairs is a trap because Zanu has no friends so want to use us to get friends back. In other words you guys only want the police ministry and nothing else. Pathetic lot.
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WHY IS MORGAN BEGGING FOR HUMANITARIAN AID? WE DONT NEED HUMANITARIAN AID BUT THE SANCTIONS REMOVED. HE IS SAID TO BE CAMPAIGNING AGAINST FURTHER SANCTIONS THAT HE CAMPAIGNED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE -WHY CANT HE JUST ASK HIS MASTERS TO REMOVE THE EXISTING SANCTIONS BECAUSE IN THAT WAY WE DO NOT HAVE TO LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER AFRICAN NATION BEGGING FOR FOOD WHEN WE CAN SO EASILY FEED OURSELEVES AS LONG AS THE EVIL SANCTIONS ARE REMOVED.
ZIMBABWE IS NO A NATION OF BEGGERS AND SO PLEASE STOP EMBARASSING US. WHY DID THESE SAME PEOPLE NOT ARRANGE YOUR TICKET TO GO TO THE SWAZI SADC TROIKA MEETING? WHEN IT SUITS THEIR AGENDA THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THEIR PUPPET COMES FOR SOME MORE INSTRUCTIONS ON FURTHER SANCTIONS…WE ARE NOT BLIND.
ALL WE CAN DO IS SIT AND WAIT….MEANWHILE PEOPLE ARE DYING BY THE HOUR..,WHILE WE WAIT FOR MORGAN TO BE PRESIDENT.AFRICA WILL ALWAYS BE ABOUT BEGGING AND LONG QUES OF PEOPLE FLEEING VIOLENCE. ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT SOME OF IT IS SELF INFLICTED BY PUPPETS.IT IS A SHAM TO BE BEGGING FOR AID WHEN WHAT WE NEED ARE SANCTIONS REMOVED.
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BREAKING NEWS ———-BREAKING NEWS —————-BREAKING NEWS
It has been uncovered that the real reason MDC want the HomeAffairs is to enable the white farmers to reclaim the farms they had nicked in the first place. It is a tactic of the west because all they want is to make sure that when the mdc hand back the farms there will be no issues with the police etc. So zimbabweans watch out because the mdc is here to give back what our fathers and mothers died for.They have been told in no uncertain terms by their masters that without homeaffairs they will not get the aid they cry for. All they want is the white farmers to go back and take over the farms given to the blacks but in order to do that , they will need to be sure the police will be there to protect them.Funding will be provided to make sure the police is ready and well equipped to deal with any resistance.
Mdc have been told not to share the homeaffairs ministry because this might jeorpadise the plan…
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Mr Reality in as much as I hate these buggers, what you are saying is impossible. You think they expect us to watch while they do that. We must do an audit and the excess we give some whities to do farming too, as Zimbabweans this time.
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Abel, in a democratic state, the winner of the elections should have more power becoz they are mandated by the people. I fail to understand why people were brain washed by Mugabe into believing that its colonialism that is raping women, killing opposition, looting govenment cofers, killing dairy cows, vandalizing farming equipment. Kutora minda hakuna kuipa chakaipa kusarima minda yacho. Ipapa vacho vakatora minda rea selling fuel on teh balck market, they killed bief cattle, they killed dairy cows. Im sure as Zimbabweas who shold have put structures in place where the farms grabed could have kept producing for the country. So what coming from the farms besides having the farms as torture camps? Can you tell me how many tonnes of produce did Chinos produce from his farms? Lets not be pushed by Mugabe into this thetoric of colonialism when at home Mugabe is killing and starving his own people. We need sound economic plans not the colonial thetoric that does not help us. What sancition are destroying the country? Do we really need to survive by donations from the West? Zimbabwe has an agro-based economy so whats happening in the farms? They should produce and non-producers should vacate the farms. Instead of buying weapons, Zimbabwe should import seed and fetiliser and give it to those who know how to farms. When they grabed farms, why did they not pass on some productive farms to AGRITEX to produce staple food for the nation? You cannot just kill a dairy cow then turn back and say we do not have milk because of sanctions as if we used to import milk… thats a damp thetoric aimed at diverting people’s attentions from mis-rule. Sanctions did not sanction Mugabe to kill his own people. Sanctions did not make Chinos self styled war vet yet he did not go to war. Zimbabwe is suffering from leadership failure and that we should accept as a nation. Tragic leadership failure is the root cause of Zimbabwean problems. Zimbabwe is not teh only former British colony and as such we should not be taken for granted by those who looted to economy. Mugabe and his army looted in DRC and they are now protecting their loots. They have been looting home and away. I hope Abel is also protecting his riches and not be like a village ZANU PF thugs who protects poverty.
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Fungai,
Everyone knows that Mugabe is the sole cause of all hardships. How much money did he waste fighting non existent enemies during Gukurahundi, DRC war, Murambatsvina, farm invasions. Are the millions of “real Zimbabwe dollars”, he used to fight less than 200 dissidents and killing less than 80 of those in 7 years justifiable? He could not find the dissidents and therefore killed civilians. Frankly speaking, Zimbabwe’s biggest liability is Mugabe himself. The man is insanely power hungry, and has the power to make millions of people believe his lies. The fools who who voted for ZANU in 1980 believed him, even when he lied about Nkomo, those fools took everything Mugabe said as the gospel truth, now they believe the lies he peddles about the sanctions and Tsvangirai. The sanctions are targeted at his close allies. ZANU has mismanaged the economy since day 1 in 1980 and they abused power since then. When Tsvangirai became a national political player Zimbabwe was heading fast to becoming the Zimbabwe Ruins. Who in his mind can ever choose a **** and make it a symbol for a political party. We all know how chickens behave, you get clean containers and put their food there, what they will do is to scatter the food in the soil and then they eat dirty food. Zanu was given a functional country, with a sound economy, being the jongwes that they are, they destroyed it and now they are busy eating the destroyed country as it sinks to new laws. Shame on Mugabe and Zanu and their supporters. Ngiyabazonda lababantu
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reality news where do yo get your news nema dzega.
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The english word for jongwe is c.o.c.k and is not an insult why did you put stars on it in my earlier comment
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varume musanyegerwa naTsvangirai hapana chaanobudisa kubva kunaMugabe.Dai akadzidza apinda paGNU odya BOB from within,nekuti truely speaking Mugabe haambofa akamugona,ndosaka varungu vakamucheka machende vainge vazviona kuti indururani
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I told you Africans would not rule in a thousand years,and you thought I meant there would be no black President in a thousand years.I meant African would not be able to govern themselves in a thousand years.Look at Zimbabwe,Kenya and even South Africa.You still need another 970 years to be able to govern yourselves.I left this country intact.The economy was superb,the Rhodesian dollar was the envy of the world.Even though I could have wedged war for another 5 years,I put the country first and accepted defeat.When I left in 1979,life was affordable,my only sin being I did not pay blacks enough money because they do not know how to use it.An example being they build19 bedroomed houses when they have 2 kids and marry too many wives.Do you think if we had not built Harare and other cities and factories and industries Zanu pf would have done that with the likes of Chombo.And when you give a white man money,he builts factories like lever brothers that employ people.As Prime Minister my official car was a Peugeot 504 and it wasn’t bullet proof during a time of war. etc etc etc……
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ko nhai moms ndaita seiko nhai muchindakadzi. What you are saying is very correct. Minda takatora and we must now find ways of distributing the land properly amongst ourselves but these westerners are not giving us a chance. They are interfering too much and that makes Mugabe take counter measures. Those measures hurt us the poor obviously but please tell your masters to back off. Its a domestic issue which we must solve mumba medu. If Bob is wrong then we must remove him otherwise iyi yekupa minda outright back kumavet they must forget.Your suggestions are all good and fine about agro-based what-what but the problem is that you guys believe it must be done by Mr Duncan and not Mr Gumbonzvanda. Your leader is unfortunately the one who encourages you to do that by his reliance on foreign aid.I agree with you 100% but lets do that as Zimbabweans tega and these Chinos and Mugabes will come to pass one day.
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HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) – Zimbabwe’s central bank chief says ordinary Zimbabweans are to blame for the country’s crippling inflation.
Reserve Bank Governor Gideon Gono is quoted in The Sunday Mail, a state-owned newspaper, as saying inflation is due to what he calls a “collective failure as a nation” to produce enough, particularly food. He calls on Zimbabweans “to actively play a part in producing for the nation.”
Zimbabwe’s inflation rate is officially 231 million percent, the highest in the world.
Government orders to seize white-owned farms starting in 2000 disrupted the economy of what had been the region’s breadbasket. The farms were to have gone to poor blacks, but many went to ruling party loyalists. Agricultural production has plummeted. Today, Zimbabwe faces a hunger crisis.
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Mboma, Jonathan Moyo went to bed with ZANU PF thinking he would ‘destroy from within’, ZAPU did the same and was swallowed. It does not make sence to get into GNU when Mugabe has such amount of power because ZANU can swallow MDC again. I think their current strategie is better for the peopel than just getting in for tha sake of it, it will not yeild any change
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AFRICAN DICTATOR HANGING ON TO POWER???????? PUPPET DICTATOR????
THE Movement for Democratic Change party will move its congress to 2012 to allow their president to lead the party for more than the two terms as required by that party’s constitution, the Zimbabwe Guardian has learnt.
The MDC-T leader, Morgan Tsvangirai has led the party for two consecutive 5-year terms and is required – according to the party’s constitution – to step down in February 2009 to clear way for a new leader.
By moving the congress to 2012, the party will be effectively extending Tsvangirai’s tenure as only congress can remove him from the leadership of the party, according to that party’s constitution.
The spokesman for the MDC-T, Nelson Chamisa informally revealed that there would be no party congress next year as required by their party’s constitution.
“There is not going to be any congress next year. That is something that Zanu PF is hoping for and maybe it will be held at Zanu PF headquarters, so certainly it will not be an MDC congress,” said an irate Chamisa when quizzed about the likelihood of the MDC-T congress which has not been made official yet.
To justify the postponement of next year’s Congress, Chamisa incorrectly said that the last MDC-T congress was held in 2007 – so that it coincides with another five years tenure for Tsvangirai.
He said: “We held our congress in 2007 and it is held every five years. So the next congress is going to be in 2012”.
The inaugural Congress of the MDC-T party was held in Chitungwiza in 1999. The second congress was held at the City Sports Centre in Harare on 18 March 2006 and led to the reelection of Tsvangirai as President and Thokozani Khupe as that party’s vice president.
February 2009 marks the end of Tsvangirai’s second tenure as party president and expectations were that Tsvangirai would step down to clear the way for a new party president in the letter and spirit of their party’s constitution.
An MDC-T insider, who is currently a legislator for a Harare constituency expressed shock and dismay that the party spokesman was privy to the information that no congress would be held next year.
“This is news to me. (Nelson) Chamisa is only a party spokesman and is supposed to communicate resolutions made by the party, not his own individual concerns,” said the party insider.
“As far as the MDC leadership is concerned, next year’s congress is very crucial as we are looking to elect a new party president. Morgan Tsvangirai has been leader for the last 9 years and his current tenure comes to an end at the end of January (2009),” he added.
Insiders within the opposition MDC-T party say they fear a situation where the MDC-T top leadership could use their power and influence to propose amendments to the party’s constitution to extend Tsvangirai’s tenure.
“Tsvangirai has played his party. We are supposed to be a democratic party and should therefore show people that we believe what we say,” said a member of the MDC-T party based in London and who is in the London executive branch.
“If Tsvangirai does a Madhuku and stands for re-election, then it’s against the constitution, because it says he should stand for two terms only. Any proposed amendment will be undemocratic,” said the executive member in reference to Dr Lovemore Madhuku of the National Constitutional Assembly who altered his organisations constitution to extend his own tenure beyond the stipulated period.
A political analyst wrote earlier this year that “opposition groups are undermining themselves and setting bad precedents when they promote bad practices amongst … themselves in order to score points against Zanu PF.”
“Unfortunately, this practice breeds lawlessness and tramples on democratic values, the very principles the opposition says it is determined to deliver to us,” said Kuthula Matshazi – a popular Zimbabwean blogger.
TSVANGIRAI IN FRANCE
Meanwhile the MDC leader is in Strasbourg where he is a guest at the European Development Days conference.
Tsvangirai is believed to be on a Europe-wide tour although party spokesman Chamisa refused to answer questions about the trip.
EU Commissioner Louis Michel told reporters Monday that he was “delighted” that Tsvangirai began a “European diplomatic tour” with the conference in Strasbourg, a base for the European Parliament.
Tsvangirai addressed the conference on Monday where he said the allocation of the Ministry of Finance to the MDC-T party was trap by Zanu PF.
“The country is broke and therefore he wants us to go and clean up the mess by establishing financial rules, because he does not have financial relations with anybody,” Tsvangirai told the conference.
MORGAN IS CAMPAIGNING FOR FURTHER SANCTIONS IN FRANCE.
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mdc preach democracy and presidents stepping down when their term is up and so on —why is morgan hanging on to power? is this a dictator in the making? suppose he wins the next elections do you think he will now give it up for chamisa to enjoy? be carful what you wish for…here is a dictator in the making!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Abel mwanangu, varungu havasisiri mu equation of our current problems. In what way are they interfering? Are they asking Chinos to kill his own kind? I think we can do better than the legacy of violence Mugabe is living in Zimbabwe. We have very educated people in govenment but I think they lack wisdom. Education is one think and wisdom is the other. We want leaders who are strategic and know whats good for their people. How do you bring in colonialism when our sisters and daughters are being sexually abused by the youth militia which is an organ of a govenment that is supposed to protect the same people they are harming? How much money went to militia instead to farming impliments, hospitals, schools to name a few. the problems with Mugabe is that he surrounded himsef with thugs who have been looting. They want him to be there to protect their power and loots and not the people. If Mugabe is a nationalisit or national leader, she should not sanction torture camps. He has risen against his own people by doing that. If Mugabe was Smith you would say it racism, so what has gotten into Mugabe when he imports ammunition when Zimbabwe is not at war. How can a leader declare a war against his own people? He is actually behaving like a rebel or opposition. Mugabe is the only one who has access to state machinery and he is using that against un armed civilians… is Mugabe a rebel? Is Mugabe behaving like Idi Amini? Defiantely he is and because of his history as a liberation hero, he has managed to use his past to cover-up on crimes against his people. How many whited are still in Zimbabwe? During the liberation war how many white soldiers raped and killed their fellow white man even though some were supporting ZANU PF? Why is Mugabe killing his own black peopel if problems are caused by whites?
Abel, for your own information, I used to work for a maize seed production company in Zimbabwe. That farms was invaded and now there is nothing coming out of that farm. But Mugabe as me and you chat here, has used elephant tasks to butter trade with weapons. Do we need weapons in Zimbabwe? If he was serious about people and their needs, his priority was to make life better for his people and also making sure that those in farms are producing. Have you ever visited some of the invaded farms? There is 1st class vandelism and Mugabe is not even stoping that. Whites are nolonger in the farms. They left all the equipment in the farms and what happened to it? If he wants our support, he should have his priorities right ie farming 1st and weapons last. Mugabe is preaching and singing from a pre-independence hyme. We are post colonial and we need plans for the people not against your own people. He is reversing all the gains of independence. he should have shown the white man that a back leader cares about his own people. If he wants to fight white, he should sent teh militia to UK and fight Brown in his backyard not in Murambinda. From our govement we need economic plans not war plans. Yes they liberated the country but how different is Mugabe’s treatment of people now from what Smith did before independence? If the rapists and killers were from opposition you would say they are rebels, if its your own govenment what do you say? For white you would say its racisms and for Mugabe is it power?
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The current president of Zimbabwe is Mugabe. he said he is the head of state and all we want from him is to deliver. Morgan is not in a position to deliver because he does not have any power. he can go where ever he wants. Mugabe said he does not need the west so Morgan knows he would need them if he get power to turn around the economy. He is planing ahead in teh event that his party get power, they will start delivering. Mugabe rubished the west, he turns arround and says sanctions bit, what sancions when the person giving you the so called sanction you indicated that you do not want to deal with them!!! You would bite the hand that you want to feed you? If Mugabe wants to surve and save his people, if he wants the economy to turn arround he should just hand over power to those he thinks have the keys to the economic turn arround. He himself is not suffering. Kana ari ma sanction, how does Muagbe plan to help his people survive the turmoil? Killing and raping will not bring food to Zimbabweans rather it alianates ZANU PF from the people. Kuti Morgan ari France kana mu Zimabbwe does does not help because he is powerless, those with power should use their power to reduce the suffering. Mugabe and his thugs are an example of what not to do. Saka vakaendera kuhondo kuti vatipe Murambatsvina, killings, no hospital, no school, no money yet they have big bellies and minieral fortunes in DRC? I wish people could read the document about mineral recources in DRC and who is looting there.
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Zuze you should read the MDC constitution and their presidential terms. The problem we have is not Morgan. Even if he steps down today as MDC president, do you think me and you will walk into Harare hospital and get medicines? Do you think teachers will go back into teh classroom if herald reports that Morgan has steped down?
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I have a question for Abel. Write me at magamanyagumbo@yahoo.com. I fail to get your thinking about solving our own problems when those in power fail to identify the problem. What is the problem we want to solve mumba medu macho? Why are we where we are today as if we had a vacume in leadership? Saka chirkukukonzera suffering chii? If you were in Mugabe’s position, what will be your first step?
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Moms , i think you have a misguided opinion on the Zimbabwe issue….You forget that it was the white farmers who sparked emotionally charged violence when they mistakenly thought that mdc-t had won the march election and they started trooping back into the countryside…Some of the former white farmers became actively involved in the violence alongside their surrogates in mdc-t..In fact , the mdc-t admitted that its suppoters actively took part in the april-july orgy of violence and urged them to refrain from further brutality..The mdc-t admitted this in a joint statement with zanu pf some time in july..Therefore , Moms you should also acknowledge that the western sponsored stooges in mdc-t had militias who raped, murdered and tortured innocent zanu pf supporters..Failure to admit it when your leaders have done so, will leave me convinced that you’re in denial of the evil nature of the mdc-t…,Moms, what we want as zimbabwe is to be left alone and determine our own destiny as an independent, sovereign state..It is a fact that the political crisis we plunged into was Western induced..In 2000, Britain and United States, in a bid to effect regime change and torpedo land reforms, started to create and sponsor pvt newspapers, pirate radio stations, tv sattions etc to churn out anti zimbabwe propaganda to subbotage an unfolding people’s revolution., by discouraging firms from investing in zim….Yes, during land reclamation there were some nasty incidents here and there at the farms but they were exagerated by Western media propaganda to make it seem as if there was a horendous bloodbath unfolding at the farms..Why is it that the same media does not go to those lengths in other violence torn African countries even after a government army ruthlessly kills dozens or even hundreds of demonstrators…This vindictive demonisation in the end, along with illegal sanctions ,created a negative perception about zimbabwe, consequently tourist arrivals declined, Foreign direct investment plummeted then our former trading partners in the West severed their ties with us..In fact mdc -t admitted this in the article iv of the GNU deal, the stooges finally acknowledged the ruinous ,effects the sanctions have had on the economy since 2000…Moms, you know very well that Zimbabwe’s economy used to be dominated by western investors but in a racist bid to subotage land reform western countries , especially Britain and United States started a campaign of interrogating& harrassing investors , discouraging them from investing in zim…These racist western nations started sponsoring MDC and other quasi opposition civic societies unruly activities that subsequently plunged Zimbabwe into political bickering, polirisation, violence resulting in deminished production in all sectors of the economy,agriculture included, leading to the present socio-economic quagmire we find ourselves in today..We all know that the new black farmers are being denied access to loans and partnerships for farm equipment and trade with western agriculture companies because western nations are afraid that they’ll be very productive and outclass the former white farmers..These western nations also want to keep zim under economic strangulation since their stooges in mdc-t bank on protest votes from hungry voters…What we want as Zimbabwe is to be left alone to economically cooperate with any nation in the world…Western nations must stop interfence into our internal affairs, they should let any company that wants to invest in Zim to do so freely without interrogation…They must remove all forms of sanctions,back off and let zimbabweans chart their own destiny without inteference and believe me, moms we will be highly productive & progressive again
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They offered him a private jet -bullet proof bmw-express train -Other national airlines and still he refused to travel to swaziland…private jet? Now Sakhosky offers him his word and the nigga jumps the south african border like a hound dog on his way to france….ndazvikona..jump nigga jump. You see this is the wrong type of mentality for AFRICANS.The white man will always bully you and you will never respect your fellow brothers. Had mugabe been white negotiating with morgan , all this nonsense would be over and done with by now. He would have signed the deal years ago.This is inferiority complex at its best…but thats what we have to deal with in our new zimbabwe.
He cried his eyes out for the Finance ministry- Mugabe told him no my brother its not that i do not want to give it to you but the job is tough unless the sanctions have been removed…but he cried and went glob trotting shouting all sorts of obscenities and lies about mugabe..When he came back Mugabe said ok my brother here -have the finance ministry you wanted so badly…Oh no can you believe it? The same nigga says Zanu pf want to trap him by giving him the finance ministry..rega ndimboseks zvangu hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha ahahahahahahaha ahahahahahah!!!! But you cried for this post..we did not force you. You signed the MOU we did not force you.This is a guy who misses the most important meeting of his party to go scamparing to Europe on a doctored VIsa .He is disobeying his country’s rules on travel documents etc. Can you imagine the french doing this to you and me? no i dont think so. Not with all this anti terror laws. But they need their puppet and so they will sort out his papers. **** who needs zimbabwe passports these days.I am glad he did not have a passport because now you can clearly see what we are dealing with ..this is organised crime.Imagine if he turned out to be a morgan look alike terrorist? That would be fun.
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iwe moms -what do you mean those in power fail to identify the problem? waka dyiswa viagra here mufana? We have told you about sanctions but you refuse to listen-yes farms are a part of the problem-economic mismangement too but overall the sanctions have wrecked the economy. A country like zimbabwe should never have the highest inflation in the world even with sanctions.we are too rich to be poor and that is why we are still standing today.They will never bring us down –never. Let mdc keep begging for aid because that is what the wanted by campaigning for sanctions-hostage democracy.You brains dzinenege dzakaputika mhani you fools.
This whole nonsense is about those white british farmers . They will not let go until the farmers have either been compensated or given back their farms. Since when have these fools cared about blacks? Smith did whatever he wanted and they still worked with him.You talk about gukurahundi and where were they then? Yes smiling because they were still milking our economy…manje vakairasa. yes we too have to pay the price but minda yatove yedu zvachose. We niggaz own our land now and that is what my brothers died for when they took up arms. Yes times are hard but future generations will bebefit from the decisions we have made today there fore making sure that blacks or zimbabweans will always be in control of their land and its resources.You will look back and thank mugabe but of course because of the sanctions it means you and me will be old by the time that happens.our children will live like kings and never again to be oppressed by white people.
Fools like morgan want to reverse all that…ini ndinopenga zvedi if he tries it. chamupidigori chaicho.
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babson dont change your name -your english is still the same.i can smell you mdc idiots from miles away..i could smell puppets during the war and i still do.
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MDC yakambopindireyi mumatoks and agreed to take part in the GNU now they are shifting posts, they wanted the ministry of finance now what is he saying? MDC is silly tinongovavhotera zvedu asi madutye evanhu. why don’t they just walk out vomirira next election kana kuenda kuhondo sezvakaitawo anamugabe smith paakaramba. this whole bickering is getting us nowhere
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I think you are also right Fungai but we must also accept some of the blame. We have tended to concerntrate on a fight we are sure not to win and forgotten that we need to also run a country. Did we not know that we needed to plant for this season? Did we not know that we need fertiliser for the season and yet here we are busy bickering over nothing. Come next year we will be begging for food again because we did not prepare for the farming seasons. I agree with you 100% that these guys need to leave us alone and I am sure we will do well by ourselves. However that is merely wishfull thinking. Allowing that to happen is tantamount to dismantling the capitalist system and you and I both know that can never be achieved by little Zimbabwe. Letting Zimbabwe get away with taking land and prospering will give other countries the wrong ideas. So my brother lets know that these guys will never leave us alone. We just need to make our systems more efficient. If we see people in our country sabotaging those efforts then the law should deal with them. The problem is that some of the worst Saboteurs are our very own ministers and politicians who we need support from. But Saboteurs of the economy that will bring misery to the masses should be classified as treason in Zim and we all know the punishment for treason. We just need to show seriousness on our part about improving things and only then will things improve. Ava varungu ngatisiyanei navo coz they have their own intrests.Lets also not worry about MDC-T coz they are too weak to take over despite winning an election. Also tell me why is it that after 8 years of looking East those easterners have not filled in the shoes of the west, otherwise they are not very usefull to us.get me on abel.mudi@yahoo.com and we have a frank discussion about our dear Zanu pf party.
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Yo scarface
I think we need to concerntrate on what we as Zanu pf can do to improve things for our people. Lets see our weaknesses and try to work on them.Dont worry about MDC-T. They are too confused to be taken seriously. Even if we give them all the ministries they will say its a trap. If Mugabe says he is stepping down today they will claim that Mugabe wants to leave them problems in Zanu so he must stay and sort his mess out. So my Brother dont worry too much about those Yoyos.Asi namukoma Morgan ndinoshaya pekinyarira nemaitiro avo ekudealer nevachena masikati machena. Ndivo vanonzi nemavet ‘ my boy’ ivava. Ndanyara fani
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ITS A TRAP GUYS- MORGAN IS TRAPPED LIKE A MAN IN A CAGE. HE DOES NOT WANT FINANCE NOW BECAUSE HE THINKS ITS A TRAP. HOMEAFFAIRS ANOTHER TRAP? HOKOYO NEMA ZIM DOLLAR MORGAN-INFLATION WILL KILL YOU …HEEEEE FINANCE THIS AND THAT…HEEEEE HOMEAFFAIRS …NEXT HEEE I AM TRAPPED AS PRIMEMINISTER , I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT…THESE TALKS WILL SHIFT UNTIL MBUYA NEHANDA COMES TO TOWN.
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nw its a trap bt yesterday u were saying u want that ministry.the confusion in the mdc must b taken as their policy to mislead the nation,so we can also be confused like them.of which the whole nation wil not move forward.like now he is in france saying no mo sanctions for zim y not just ask for the removal of the original sanctions.for yo own info tsvangi zim does not need aid but the removal of sanctions we can do things ourselves and he must kno that with the current state of the financial state in the worst they dnt have spare change 4 u,they can promise bt wil they deliver,ask afganistan and other countries who were promised aid even wen times were gud.sa for the revival of pf-zapu is concerned i dnt care these guys have bn a liability 2 zanu pf they have neva delivered election victory to us in their region.they allowed mdc to take ova.mdc must b worried mo than us in zanu pf.hee mat is not developed wat did they do to develop matabeleland.nothing.so they can go ahead and restart their tribal part that will b only regional.gukurahundi u invited on yoselves.so deal with past,as shonas we dnt owe u any development do it yoselves stop blaming problems of the region on us.
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We are where we are today because of tragic leadership failure. WE need leaders who know when and how to fight. We do not want leaders who put us into economic darkness like ZANU PF. Its sad that some of us were brain washed and fallen into Mugabe’s propaganda. Im surprissed that Fungai believes the ZANU PF media propaganda that whites started coming back. Come back from where and to which village? Name one white who came back and name the place you saw them. Varungu vako vemu herald. Ask ZAPU what ZANU PF is made up of. Even Dabengwa said it soon after March elections that he had fallen into ZANU PF propaganda and had believed them up intil he himself had a chance to talk to MDC-T executive. There are people who victimize MDC based on their knowledge about it through ZANU PF controlled papers. Even ZANU PF when they were fighting a white man Smith, they were funded by the west. They looked for funding from those who shared their views and there is still nothing wrong if MOrgan does the same. Thatchel who is now anti-Mugabe was raising money for ZANU PF and thats known. Tiny Roland funded ZANU PF and he is white. The likes of Dike funds ZANU PF so where and how do you draw the line. Evil is evil whether its white vs white; white vs black or black vs black. Mugabe should leave the white alone and put all his energies on economic recovery. Can Abel, Fungai and Scarface tell me why a 45 ZANU PF member deligation accompanied Mugabe to deliver a 15 minute UN speach and each getting 12thousand US dollars a day (plus hotel allowances and fight expenses)? How many bore-holes could that money drill in our rural areas? How many bags of seed maize would that money buy? How many heart of the suffering Zimbabweans could they have won from us? The act the ZANU PF liberated the country does not give it a right to abuse power and abuse the people. What is it that ZANU PF did not do in the last 28years that they want to do now? If MDC was as puppet party as potraid, why is Mugabe willing to dialogue and concede some of the ministries? If he thinks he does not need the west, so why is he crying foul about sanctions? Why is Mugabe not using the country’s recourses on the people? Snith had UDI but it was better than our current economic status. How can he use our recourses to go and fight in DRC as if we have money surplus? Why did he order Murambatsvina against his own people? Why is it that Muangagwa’s name appears on list of those with mineral fortunes in DRC? You say you do not need the west and then turn arround again and say the west gave us sanctions so what are you saying? Who said ties should be cut? If Mugabe wants to fight Brown, he should fly his generals to UK and not drive them to a poor village in Zimbabwe. The most barbaric thing I saw was vanderlism in invaded farms. I think as Zimbabweans we could have done better than that. He should have taken farms and handed them over to Agritex to produce for the nation and not to give Chinos. Chinos uses fuels to kill people in Buhera instead of using such recourses in his farm why? They were using herbicides against suspected members of the opposition instead of using it in their farms what kind of strategy is that? Do they eat people they were burning? We have tragic leaderhsip failure in Zimbabwe. ZANU PF should get its priorities right. Mugabe is not different from Idi Amini. I think we need a Mwalimu Nyerere of today to help us. History is repeating itself. Mugabe has left the legacy of violence
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Asi Moms can we please not loose patangira nyaya yedu. Tati ko what do you say about the ministry of Finance issue? What you are sayoing is correct about everything else but ko paFinance apa murikurasika papi nhai vakuru? You demanded finance but you are now saying its a trap. what do you say about that?
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stop writing rubbish. it is your relatives who voted Zanu in 1980. Mugabe never imposed himself on the people.
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